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		By: NealNial		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.holybooks.com/secret-of-the-golden-flower/comment-page-1/#comment-146750&quot;&gt;George H&lt;/a&gt;.

I wholly agree with you George. Wilhelm&#039;s version (as translated into English from German) is not just bad, it is psychologically harmful to the reader. Similar can be said for everything written by James Legge, Homer Dubs, and most all other translators of Chinese texts. I enjoy doing my own translations of ancient texts, and though my skills are not great (not so much as an arms wide da over ren :) ), still I am able to glean sensible concepts from the texts. There is a lot of beauty in original texts, but none in any known popular translations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.holybooks.com/secret-of-the-golden-flower/comment-page-1/#comment-146750">George H</a>.</p>
<p>I wholly agree with you George. Wilhelm&#8217;s version (as translated into English from German) is not just bad, it is psychologically harmful to the reader. Similar can be said for everything written by James Legge, Homer Dubs, and most all other translators of Chinese texts. I enjoy doing my own translations of ancient texts, and though my skills are not great (not so much as an arms wide da over ren :) ), still I am able to glean sensible concepts from the texts. There is a lot of beauty in original texts, but none in any known popular translations.</p>
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		By: Nicolas Blouin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2022 17:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.holybooks.com/secret-of-the-golden-flower/comment-page-1/#comment-146750&quot;&gt;George H&lt;/a&gt;.

so which translation would you advise? thanks]]></description>
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<p>so which translation would you advise? thanks</p>
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		By: George H		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2022 07:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As someone who lives in Vietnam and has spent my life studying Daoism and Buddhism, I am astounded that people keep assuming that Richard Wilhelms&#039;s translation is acceptable. It is not, it is garbage. It should be completely ignored by westerners. Why oh why do westerners, especially Americans keep thinking they have some kind of special understanding of this. Wilhelms command of Asain languages was at best conversational. His translation should not be taken seriously. Just because Carl Jung wrote a foreword doesn&#039;t improve the terrible translation. Clearys is also really bad. If only more American scholars of Asian religion would actually live abroad int he countries they claim to have mastered the language of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who lives in Vietnam and has spent my life studying Daoism and Buddhism, I am astounded that people keep assuming that Richard Wilhelms&#8217;s translation is acceptable. It is not, it is garbage. It should be completely ignored by westerners. Why oh why do westerners, especially Americans keep thinking they have some kind of special understanding of this. Wilhelms command of Asain languages was at best conversational. His translation should not be taken seriously. Just because Carl Jung wrote a foreword doesn&#8217;t improve the terrible translation. Clearys is also really bad. If only more American scholars of Asian religion would actually live abroad int he countries they claim to have mastered the language of.</p>
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		By: Ian McCartney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pica seems to have reproduced the Wilhelm-Jung-Baynes version with only a few very superficial changes to some terms, perhaps adding a more external (Christian) sense, contrary to the internal-pointing terms and phrases in the source materials of Tang Dynasty Tientai Buddhism and Taoism. Both the Wilhelm-Jung-Baynes version and the Cleary version have a great deal of additional information compared  to this Pica rendition, and are more suitable for starting meditation practice. Also have a look at JJ Semple, the most recent advocate of golden Flower Meditation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pica seems to have reproduced the Wilhelm-Jung-Baynes version with only a few very superficial changes to some terms, perhaps adding a more external (Christian) sense, contrary to the internal-pointing terms and phrases in the source materials of Tang Dynasty Tientai Buddhism and Taoism. Both the Wilhelm-Jung-Baynes version and the Cleary version have a great deal of additional information compared  to this Pica rendition, and are more suitable for starting meditation practice. Also have a look at JJ Semple, the most recent advocate of golden Flower Meditation.</p>
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		By: Aria		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2017 12:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ye have the best website. Thank you very much]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ye have the best website. Thank you very much</p>
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		By: Simon Beck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The pdf here doesn&#039;t seem to be the book. It&#039;s called Secret of the Golden Flower, but is only fourteen pages and not a translation by Wilhelm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pdf here doesn&#8217;t seem to be the book. It&#8217;s called Secret of the Golden Flower, but is only fourteen pages and not a translation by Wilhelm.</p>
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